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2,000 Years of Jesus' Catholic Church?
A quote from Dr. James White's blog at www.aomin.org
"We all heard the "2,000 years of Jesus' Catholic Church" mantra last year when John Paul II died, and it was almost never challenged. I would ask our writer to name, please, a single bishop at the Council of Nicea who believed as he believes on each of these topics: Marian dogmas (Perpetual Virginity, Immaculate Conception, Bodily Assumption), Papal Authority (infallibility), Purgatory, transubstantiation. Any semi-serious reader of history knows he would not be able to find such a person, so the claim of "2,000 years" may sound impressive, but it has the truth value any advertising slogan carries: none. It may sound great to those ignorant of history, and to those who wear the glasses Rome provides that filters out all the extraneous problems and issues, but for anyone with an even semi-decent grasp of the past, it is a hollow, shallow claim."
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"It may sound great to those ignorant of history, and to those who wear the glasses Rome provides that filters out all the extraneous problems and issues, but for anyone with an even semi-decent grasp of the past, it is a hollow, shallow claim."
Perhaps it also sounds good to those who are charitable, those who aren't inextricably entangled in the historical perspective (and latent primitivism) of modernity, and those who recognize that the opinions of each individual are not the final words on doctrine.
To directly reference the Reformed tradition, of which I am myself a part, what we have to be careful about is how we understand the 'priesthood of all believers.' It is not the "preacherhood of all believers," it is not the "interpretational autonomy of all believers," it is the "prayerhood of all believers." That is, we need no intermediary in our relationship with God. Outside of that, as Calvin and others could well attest, a little order and heirarchy never hurt anyone...
Posted by: WTM | August 8, 2006 01:11 PM
WTM,
I agree with you for the most part. My problem with the slogan is that it rather simplistically and naively makes Jesus into the founder of a church ... and, specifically, this particular church in our particular time. I think we need to hear the early Barth from the Romans commentary, that just because God's revelation created certain channels and craters in the wake of hearing God's word does not mean that those same channels and craters will remain the ones God uses to communicate the grace of God.
That said, I appreciate the Catholic Church greatly, and we cannot reduce it to some of its wayward doctrines.
Posted by: David | August 8, 2006 09:15 PM
The one factor missing in your account is any mention of the 12 disciples - those chosen by Jesus to initiate and lead the group of people whom would arise in the wake of his life and work. Apostolic succession is not something to be tossed away lightly.
Posted by: WTM | August 9, 2006 07:25 AM
The Roman Catholic Church has to be considered as a system, who on the whole fails to accomplish what the mission of the church of Christ has on this earth: preach the Gospel of grace and teaching the believers all the counsel of God. The Gospel is best summarized in the five solas, who in one stroke exclude ALL the teachings and the practices of the Roman Catholic Church, and this alone suffices to say that it doesn't deserve any appreciation by a true Reformed, biblical believer, but recognition of her total apostacy and rebellion to the revealed Gospel of Christ.
Posted by: Francesco | August 12, 2006 01:18 PM
Francesco,
You stated that the mission of the church of Christ is to "preach the Gospel of grace and teaching the believers all the counsel of God." Who defines Christ's Gospel of grace? Who defines the counsel of God? There are hundreds of interpretations! You tell me which one is correct. Please.
Posted by: Michael | August 18, 2006 02:18 PM