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    Heresy is not a Victimless Crime

    There are times when it is necessary for Leaders to confront heretics head on because of the harm they do to others in the Church. Here's day 1 of a radio debate done this week between Dr. James White (a friend of mine) and Harold Camping, who is telling people to flee the local Church (amongst other things). Day 2 of the debate found here. Each program lasts approximately one hour. - JS

    Posted by John Samson on July 29, 2009 10:08 AM


    Well, that was an interesting radio broadcast.

    I would point to one verse that seems to me to have been missed by Mr. Camping which clearly puts "feet" on the Church on earth:::>

    Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the Bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price.

    I shutter and tremble when I read the next verses:::>

    Rev 22:18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book,
    Rev 22:19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

    I am looking forward to the next one. Presummably it will be posted herein later today? Or latest, tomorrow??

    This article may possibly be mentioned on Twitter by someone. genuinely?

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