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    Arminianism's Depersonalization of the Gospel

    Below, in a youtube video (lasting approximately 20 minutes), here is Dr. James White teaching a class from Romans 8:31ff, asking the question, who is being referred to as the "us" in this passage?... nameless faceless people? Is it everyone who lives or has ever lived? Is it a specific group? Is Paul referring to the same group all the way through the passage? What are the implications? Who is Christ interceding for? Is it a group that has people entering and leaving (gaining salvation and then losing it)? Is it "me" IF I fulfill certain conditions? Does Christ fail to save some of those He is interceding for? An interesting unveiling concerning the impersonal nature of Arminian theology and salvation showing the huge implications of a man centered theology and the great cost of losing the personal promises and the deep and abiding assurance this passage is meant to bring to the people of God:

    Posted by John Samson on August 28, 2009 11:40 AM


    James White seems to have not grasped William Craig's position at all. Craig is not a classical Arminian but a Molinistic Arminian. White's 'depersonalization' argument works only against certain forms of classical Arminianism but certainly not Craig's position. Craig has no problem affirming that God knows the elect individually before the creation of the world. He even affirms that once a person is saved, God will successfully see to it that he perseveres to the end. His molinistic understanding of election allows for that. Moreover, Craig is against the classical Arminian position. He thinks that it is simply unattainable in light of the Scriptural witness. It's disappointing to hear White criticize Craig on grounds of a position Craig himself is against!!

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