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    “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”- Romans 9:13

    There is no doubt about it, God had a different measure of love for one of the twins of than he did for the other. The phrase "Jacob have I loved but Esau have I hated" leads us to no other conclusion. But why? What is the basis for this distinction?

    "I am not at a loss to tell you that it could not be for any good thing in Jacob, that God loved him, because I am told that “the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God, according to election might stand, not of works but of him that calleth.” I can tell you the reason why God loved Jacob; It is sovereign grace. There was nothing in Jacob that could make God love him; there was everything about him, that might have made God hate him, as much as he did Esau, and a great deal more. But it was because God was infinitely gracious, that he loved Jacob, and because he was sovereign in his dispensation of this grace, that he chose Jacob as the object of that love. Now, I am not going to deal with Esau, until I have answered the question on the side of Jacob. I want just to notice this, that Jacob was loved of God, simply on the footing of free grace."

    C. H. Spugeon's sermon, preached on Sunday, January 16th, 1859, on the theme of "Jacob and Esau" is filled with great insight here. - JS

    Posted by John Samson on May 1, 2010 08:17 PM


    RC Sproul said the problem he had with this passage was not that God hated Esau, but how God could have loved Jacob.

    Of course he then gets around to a similar answer to Spurgeon's

    I have done some research concerning this passage in the past and found that there are two main perspectives on the usage of the word hate in verse 13. The first is that the verse should be interpreted as Hebrew idiom where the word hate would be understood as loved less. The second perspective was that that traditional understanding of the word hate is accurately apply in the verse but that God's hate is a hate free of sin or is a righteous hatred. For me neither perspective causes a theological problem and there are good arguments on both sides, so I'm not sure where I come down on this one. Do you side with either of these two perspectives on the meaning of the word hate in verse 13?

    Have a read of Malachi 1:2 & 3 - God did hate Esau as it is written. This verse should not be mistaken as God just loving someone less than another for to do so would take away the deeper meaning and a correct understanding of what God is conveying to the reader of His written word.
    It is understood by many that an understanding of chapter 3 of II Peter, that they are in fact 3 earth and heaven ages, gives insight asto why God could have such disdain for Esau, a spirit & soul in the flesh body. It is not a question of what he was going to do during his life in the flesh but rather what he may have done in the first earth/heaven age, a time long. long ago when we existed and lived in our first and true state of being, spiritual entities, God's children, the stars of heaven. John 3:13 is a 2nd witness to the fact that we first existed in heaven before being born into a flesh body, born from above through the bag of waters, the womb.
    The Hebrew word "hated" in Malachi 1:3 is saw-nay' - the Strong's Concordance number is H8130 and it is not to love less but looked upon as an enemy, even to utterly hate.

    Consider the following as aids in building knowledge and understanding of the fact that we did exist prior to being born into these vessels of flesh. Jeremiah 1:5 and Ephesians 1:4 gives witness of this. - The reason we are coming into what may seem as "new" knowledge of the Scriptures, such as knowing that there are 3 earth ages, the one that was, the one that is now and the one that is to come can be found in Daniel 12:4 & 9

    The 1st, where we came from, heaven, when the "morning star," the cherub that covereth, Ezekiel 28:14, Lucifer, was at some point cast down from heaven. By some this is known as the katabole, by others, the overthrow, Isaiah 14:12.
    The 2nd, where we are now, our soul and it's spirit body born into a flesh body, Genesis 1:26.
    The 3rd is yet to come, the eternity, this for those of us that do not suffer the 2nd death, Revelation 2:11, 20:6, 14, 21.8.

    We are in the generation of the fig tree, (Matthew 24:32 - 34) all prophecy will be fulfilled in this generation and when we read what God instructed Daniel to do in Daniel 12:4 & 9 we begin to understand why they're are things within the pages of the Bible that seem to be of new revelation, these are the mysteries saved for this generation.

    In closing note the Greek word for "worlds" (G165) in Hebrew 1:2 - an age, a space of time. I guess one could then say that Esau must have really messed up in the first age for God to have such feeling about him in this one. Perhaps he will repent during the Millennium.

    I pray this adds increase to one's knowledge and understanding of the Scriptures that our heavenly Father has given us...


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