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    Election and Reprobation

    I was interviewed this morning (April 15, 2014) on the “Knowing the Truth” radio broadcast with Kevin Boling as we talked about the doctrine of election, reprobation, Christ and the Cross, responding to a new book by Austin Fischer “Young, Restless and No Longer Reformed.” The 55 minute program is available to hear/download here. - John Samson

    Posted by John Samson on April 15, 2014 12:33 PM

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    April 15th, 2014

    John, I just finished listening to the broadcast.
    The Pastor, Kevin Boling, after the break quoted something from A.A. Hodge about the origin of sin while they were reconnecting you back into the broadcast discussion about Calvinism, Christ and the Cross.
    You responded to it after being reconnected. I wanted to float by you something I’ve been pondering for awhile about this origin of sin too and see what you think about it?
    First I want to say something about the following verse as I run by you my thoughts looking at what the Scripture says there.
    1Jn 1:5 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

    Here in that verse we see that in God there is no darkness at all, that is there is “no darkness” in God, meaning there was NO darkness created by God when creating this present heavens and earth. God is sinless and there is no darkness in God at all; God the Father, God the Son, (Jesus, the Son of man) and God the Holy Spirit. What God created in the beginning of these present heavens and earth was very good and we agree that darkness is not VERY GOOD, then, now or ever, even though present in the beginning on day 1!
    Second I want to make an observation back to that verse, 1 Jn 1:5, from these Scriptures:
    Gen 1:1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
    Gen 1:2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
    Gen 1:3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
    Gen 1:4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness.
    Gen 1:5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.
    Gen 1:6 And God said, "Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters."
    Gen 1:7 And God made the expanse and separated the waters that were under the expanse from the waters that were above the expanse. And it was so.
    Gen 1:8 And God called the expanse Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day.

    Here we read about the first 2 days of creation. The point I want to focus on is what God was doing by the SEPARATION of darkness from LIGHT and separating the waters below from the waters above and why. God had and still has an intent when He created the heavens and earth. Darkness was present. Darkness was not created by God but present at creation. This creation was created with that truth in view. When creating LIGHT on day 1 and on day 2 creating an expanse that separated the waters below from the waters above God was creating then separating the LIGHT from the pre-existing DARKNESS for a reason; an eternal purpose, isolating this darkness, separating it from everything that He created very good, except man. But nowhere in those 2 created days do we read anything about God CREATING darkness at all. It simply says darkness was over the face of the deep. Darkness was present and in existence already on day 1. Darkness was in existence already and this to me points to that Hodge quotation made by Pastor Boling mentioned already.
    Hodge, quoted by Pastor Boling, makes the point that the origin of sin/darkness existed before this creation and began in the angelic world prior to day 1 of this creation (Genesis 1:1) and this knowledge of good and evil, darkness, though present and inactive in the Garden only became active in the Garden then to all mankind through the activities that brought about the fall of man. Eve is the mother of all living.
    The predestination doctrine of the CHILDREN OF LIGHT from the children of darkness is in view. Who loves darkness? The children of the world love the things of the world and Scripture teaches us they hate the LIGHT. Why? Because the love of the Father is not in them! Where does this love for God come from? Jesus when praying to the Father prayed:
    Joh 17:25 O righteous Father, even though the world does not know you, I know you, and these know that you have sent me.
    Joh 17:26 I made known to them your name, and I will continue to make it known, that the love with which you have loved me may be in them, and I in them."

    Who runs from darkness and hates the things of the world by overcoming it through Faith? The Children of LIGHT! The Children of LIGHT are the Elect who were already predestined and foreordained before the foundation of the world, the present heavens and earth to receive His Faith. It is our calling to rise above the ever present darkness in the world in every generation to receive God’s Grace and Mercy and Peace through Life:::>
    Rom 5:17 For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.

    Where does that leave the Children of Light in the eyes of the rulers and authorities in heavenly places who hate God and LIGHT? The Apostle Paul, I proffer, gives us some insight into where by defining what the battle is about LIGHT overcoming darkness in every generation. We know by the Scriptures that the battle is a battle to come into obedience to the FAITH that sets us apart from the world and this FAITH is a gift lest anyone should boast as you articulated well in the radio broadcast today. It’s not “what” but “whose” Faith do we need to overcome the lusts of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life? Is it man a centered faith or God centered secured through the Promises of God? The Faith we need is the gift of Faith that BELIEVES God’s promises. None of us is righteous before God, no one is righteous, none! The Apostle wrote this which I proffer is as good an insight into this mystery of the ages as any and it has been this manifold wisdom of God before Christ was born, during His lifetime on earth and to the days we are living in now that separates us from darkness is the testament to the doom of it in that day of God’s wrath and judgment on His enemies and all those who hate Him and the LIGHT, who is Jesus Christ:
    Eph 3:8 To me, though I am the very least of all the saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ,
    Eph 3:9 and to bring to light for everyone what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things,
    Eph 3:10 so that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly places.
    Eph 3:11 This was according to the eternal purpose that he has realized in Christ Jesus our Lord,
    Eph 3:12 in whom we have boldness and access with confidence through our faith in him.

    What do you think?

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